Is my method unorthodox?

[conair]

There are some questions I wanted to ask for a long time and in this forum I thing, I will get some answers.

Every time I want to backup a DVD and it is too large I use the following method so I can apply as little compression as possible.
__1. Rip it to HD using DVDDecrypter file mode
__2. Re-author it using DVDShring (movie only + deep analysis) and recode applying no compression for the movie and still pictures for the ending credits without audio (so I gain 250-500mb).
__3. Finally I back it up using DVDRebuilder+CCE (3 passes)
With this method up to 15% less compression is applied finally on the main movie.

Is my method unorthodox?
Am I loosing a lot on quality because of re-making the movie twice?
Is there a better way?

Thanks for any replies.

[techreactor]

There are some questions I wanted to ask for a long time and in this forum I thing, I will get some answers.

Every time I want to backup a DVD and it is too large I use the following method so I can apply as little compression as possible.
__1. Rip it to HD using DVDDecrypter file mode
__2. Re-author it using DVDShring (movie only + deep analysis) and recode applying no compression for the movie and still pictures for the ending credits without audio (so I gain 250-500mb).
__3. Finally I back it up using DVDRebuilder+CCE (3 passes)
With this method up to 15% less compression is applied finally on the main movie.

Is my method unorthodox?
Am I loosing a lot on quality because of re-making the movie twice?
Is there a better way?

Thanks for any replies.

It is indeed an unconventional way, but using the Step two yourway, with shrink might not be required.There are two variations of Step 2 that you can try and then post your results back.

Step 2 - Continue with your existing methods, no need to use AEC or analysis since those are needed only if you use compression(which you are not).

OR

Step 2 - Use the VOBblanker methods to remove unnecessary extras, you can even cut the starting and end credits, decide if you want to keep the menus or not.

Step2 would be a better method for you, IMO.

[conair]

Thanks techreactor for Your reply!
I’m not familiar with VOBblanker and what if I want to keep the end credits but grand them minimum space.
Is there another way keeping end credits as still pictures without sound?

[techreactor]

Download VOBblanker from here

Go through these guides for Vobblanker:

Start with Vobblanking

How to preview/cut with VOBBloanker

Motion to Still Menu

I dont think you can keep only the audio during credits with snapshots with vobblanker.

[UncasMS]

- with dvd rebuilder PRO you can use MAIN MOVIE ONLY
this might spare additional steps in order to get rid of anything unwanted
or use vobblanker with its autoblank feature - this will leave main movie + menu iirc

- as ENcoder are more powerful than TRANScoder (shrink is a transcoder) i would not compress the credits with a transcoder but leave the job to rebuilder + the very encoder you want to use

should you want to apply more compression to the endcredits than the already low bitrates which rebuilder will calculate then you could "rbopt" to change bitrates for certain segments (i.e. the endcredits in your case)

[conair]

Thanks for all the help to both of You!
I’ll try Your suggestions.

[blutach]

DVD Rebuilder can blank segments itself - at least the pro version can.

If you are using DVD Shrink with no compression, there will be no quality loss up until the DVD Rebuilder stage.

Regards

[conair]

DVD Rebuilder can blank segments itself - at least the pro version can.

If you are using DVD Shrink with no compression, there will be no quality loss up until the DVD Rebuilder stage.

Regards

Thanks for the help.

[jeo]

...DVDRebuilder+CCE (3 passes)

i did tests with the same source:
CCE 5 passes= good quality,long time to encode
CCE 2 passes= good quality(better than 5 passes ,fast to encode
OPV=better quality(believe or not ),faster to encode.
CCE(2&5 passes)=4.35GB
OPV=4.34Gb

more OPV testes later,still winning in quality/velocity.
(if you want screenshots or little vobs i send to your mail(send pm) )

try OPV(One Pass VBR(with analysis)) first.

[UncasMS]

i remember having trouble with the title *Das Boot* years ago

using cce with 3 and up to 8 passes i wasnt really satisfied with the quality

next i tried RoBa with 1 pass and it gave me a better picture than all the passes before

[conair]

Thank You all for Your time & help.

i did tests with the same source:
CCE 5 passes= good quality,long time to encode
CCE 2 passes= good quality(better than 5 passes ,fast to encode
OPV=better quality(believe or not ),faster to encode.
CCE(2&5 passes)=4.35GB
OPV=4.34Gb

more OPV testes later,still winning in quality/velocity.
(if you want screenshots or little vobs i send to your mail(send pm) )

try OPV(One Pass VBR(with analysis)) first.

For the moment I’m experimenting 2 or 3 passes VBR. From What I read too many passes (>3) is a waste of time and quality.
Yes would like to see your results.

[jeo]

Yes would like to see your results.

ok,waiting for you.
i got your mail!(i answered your pm 2 days ago)

[conair]

ok,waiting for you.
i got your mail!(i answered your pm 2 days ago)

Sorry but I was away....
I did send You a PM, Thank,s

[jeo]

you have pm with 4 .rar files with logs,screenshot from source,shrink,rbopv and rbcce2passes.
all files was cutted with shrink(from resulted encode) and have movie only(no audio) with 31.0Mb to 38.3Mb max size.
any doubts post(create a new thread if needed)

regards!

[conair]

you have pm with 4 .rar files with logs,screenshot from source,shrink,rbopv and rbcce2passes.

regards!

I got the samples, will be back.
Thanks.