of all the encoder-which one

[NightTran]

how much dif from procoder two to HC 018?

two times better? ten times better or 100 times better?

I mean it because you have procoder 2

[blutach]

Procoder 2 is sensational for low BR stuff. I can't say that HC is bad, but really Procoder is just top of the tree IMO.

It's a shame they don't have a trial of some sort. You'd see it immediately. Plus, you don't have to play around with matrices. It picks its own internal routines.

It also does conversions from just about anything to anything. Cooks dinner for you too!

Regards

[NightTran]

but times is about the same? still base on how fast your system?

[blutach]

Procoder mastering quality is probably the slowest. But I encode at about 27-28 fps which is faster than real time (PAL) using multiple encoder processes.

Just did Prison Break Disk 1 - took about 140 minutes.

Regards

[NightTran]

I see, thanks

[BR7]

So are you saying it's worth $250 and is a way better encoder compared to the free ones out there can you see a big difference in quality.And don't worry about picking your words carefully to voice your opinion I realize it's just your opinion and I am not going to wine and cry and blame blu if I am not satisfied lol.But seriously I trust your opinion

[blutach]

$250 is half price mate. Snap it up! You won't be sorry.

Regards

[UncasMS]

how much dif from procoder two to HC 018?

two times better? ten times better or 100 times better?

I mean it because you have procoder 2

=>

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=65275

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=63668

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=57235

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=391464

and concerning speed you might want to take a look at iDCTs as well:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=55813

[rahzel]

i haven't used procoder, but i've heard that it softens the picture slightly, so i wouldn't recommend it for higher bitrate stuff.

CCE is known to be better at higher BR and HC is known to be good at lower bitrate. but with the use of matrices, both encoders can work great for both high bitrate and low bitrate.

i personally use CCE for everything, and i've tried all the free encoders. another big plus to CCE is it's the fastest.

[blutach]

I have not found the pic softens at high BRs rahzel. In fact the opposite.

Regards

[linx05]

I actually would like to own Procoder2. Does anyone want to shout me it for my birthday? Anyone?

[blutach]

According to BR7, it's being sold at 50% off.

Regards

[BR7]

Yep it is look at this link and also look here

[rahzel]

i might have to try procoder out myself to judge.

question about setting up Eclpro... this is what i have for these settings in the eclpro.ini file, and i'm wondering if theyre right.

AlwaysGOP15=1
AutoParameters=1
Alwaysframe=0

setting up eclpro, i believe i just kept clicking "Yes".
my format is NTSC btw.

[UncasMS]

my ini is slightly bigger but the lines in question are identical:

[Options]
Delay=0
Pause=10
Priority=0
Minimize=1
NoPathWarn=0
Procoder=C:\Programme\Canopus\ProCoder 2\Procoder2.exe
[Quality]
Quality=4
AlwaysGOP15=1
AutoParameters=1
Alwaysframe=0
[Debug]
StrictGOPBrateControl=0
Legacy=0
[Temp]
Filename=