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[mill]

I would like to read some oppions on this encoder, i used it and it and it took 1hr and 20 min. longer then hc encoder,as far as doing a comparison on the quality i didnt do one yet.

[BR7]

You will see a bunch of them at the vmesquita forums .And danpos has a ball doing quality tests

[jeo]

You will see a bunch of them at the vmesquita forums .And danpos has a ball doing quality tests

here is the dangerous part.
i know Danpos (by telephone) and the Qmap developer is competente and a cool person but this forum is full of kids where their target is 5 or 10 movies per media and we can't trust in his "logs" as i posted a long time after download one enigmatic and unbelieveble log from rapidshare and post here.the developer was illuded(maybe still) with this forum and the base of his tests are the logs from kids.
the developer posted here against my position but i understand...now maybe he understand me...time changes.
as i advice before,you'll have lots of headaches with Qmap.
blame the kids, not the believer developer!!
they all was trashed from kvcd forum round 2 years ago where i was mod and i fight with lots of lazy guys,i know one by one(lots by telephone).in the end i'm out of the forum too....long,hard but true history...believe or not.

[BR7]

Interesting jeo and thanks for the info I have no reason to doubt you,you have always been a straight shooter here in these forums

[UncasMS]

I would like to read some oppions on this encoder, i used it and it and it took 1hr and 20 min. longer then hc encoder,as far as doing a comparison on the quality i didnt do one yet.

i have posted some results here:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=320950#post320578

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=321558#post321558

[mill]

Thank you UncasMS, very impressive testing you did there.It must take a very trained eye.

[gonwk]

Hi UncasMS,

Can you please tell me, a newbie in using DVDRB 0.98 ... If I install AutoQMatEnc0.33 ... will I get "Better" results (end product) compare to HC0.19? I have only used HC0.19 per Cynthia's guide.

THANKS,
G!

[BR7]

Imo AQE is better at low bit rates then HC. I used AQE when reduction was below 55% and I used HC for anything above

[gonwk]

Hi BR7,

Thanks for your reply. Boy, am I glad that you put the % number in ... because since I am new to this recoding thing I was confused with the term "low bit rate".

BR7, I actually used DVDRB 0.98 with HC019 yesterday to improve on the "Quality" of my video ... my source was my "Satellite" feed copy on a JVCDVDRecorder ... DVDRB said that there no compression needed which I already knew ... and I said go ahead and Rebuild anyway ... and boy after 4Hrs it turned out a result much much better than my original ... crisper and richer color. The only confuses me about HC019 is that even my source is my Original DVD it tends to make the Rebuild Colors "Darker" ... I don't knwo why!?!?!?

Q: BR7, do you think if I ran the AQE on my aforementioned Satellite movie ... so it will not give me a "Better" picture comapre to HC019?

Thanks,
G!

[BR7]

I was confused with the term "low bit rate".

DVD Rebuilder will show you what the over all bitrate is here is one example of a low bitrate DVD this is where I would use AQE
Processed 322,300 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 47.8%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,184/1,748Kbs
- Space for Video : 2,867,662KB

Here is a higher bitrate this is where I would use HC
Processed 11,681 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 63.2%
- Overall Bitrate : 4,529/3,623Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,373,534KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,382/720/3,623 Kbs

I have never experienced darker color so and I am not sure what to do about it so I really can't help you.I said up above that I use AQE when compression is at 55% or lower it's not entirely true I usually use it up to 70% but I always use it below 55% basically it depends on your taste and what you think looks good.Using filters is another good thing to learn it can help out giving you better video quality

[rahzel]

thing is, the % is not the only thing you should look at, you also have to consider the bitrate and if the video has a lot of action or movement. there are many movies out there that use more bitrate than needed and there are also some movies that have a low overall bitrate to begin with.

@UncasMS,
i admit CCE produces noticeably more noise than all the other encoders compatible with DVD-RB, but i still personally use CCE for everything, and ive tried all the encoders (except QuEnc). thing is, screenshots are not a good way to compare encoders, and the noise you spotted in your screenshots are nearly impossible to actually see during playback. CCE isnt the best for lower bitrate encodes, but paired with autoq1 (aka avamat6) its great for lower bitrates as well. this is, of course, my opinion.

[blutach]

The % is totally meaningless. High %s can simply mean low Qs to begin with as rahzel has hinted at.

The resultant BR is what matters.

I personally wouldn't use CCE for anything less than 2500. I use Procoder 2 exclusively now, except when testing. It is just sensational on low BR stuff. And if you encode extras in half D1, they look as good as the original.

Regards

[rahzel]

many say the % is meaningless, but imo, it does matter somewhat, especially when you're choosing the matrix you want for the specific movie. for example, even if the bitrate is well over 4000, but a fair amount of compression is needed, using a matrix intended for higher bitrates (such as FOX Home Entertainment) is not a good idea; even the description file for the High/High matrix (which is one of the matrices FOX and others use) in RME states this. the % also gives you an idea of how different it will look from the source. but i agree, the bitrate is the most important thing.

i always backup my movies with movie and menu only, so i NEVER go under 2900kbps anyway. i have never tried any encoder with a bitrate lower than 2900.

[blutach]

i always backup my movies with movie and menu only, so i NEVER go under 2900kbps anyway.

Yep - I only ever run into "difficulties of choice", when the movie fits without compression and I decide to squeeze some extras on.

Regards

[BR7]

That's what I was trying to get at I have always been terrible at explaining things.Sorry if I explained it wrong or if I made it more confusing that it should be