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  • I26
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    • Jun 2002
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    Simple Question...

    I know menus look cool and are great to include but do most of you do this? I use TMPGenc to do my VCD convesion and was wondering if you usually make menus for your VCDs. Mine are always 2 or 3 discs VCDs. I don't see descent quality off of one disc or am I not doing something right?

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  • setarip
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    • Dec 2001
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    #2
    The vast majority of VCDs WILL require 2 CDs (and, occasionally, 3)...

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    • I26
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      • Jun 2002
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      #3
      Originally posted by setarip
      The vast majority of VCDs WILL require 2 CDs (and, occasionally, 3)...
      And do they usually include menus like a DVD???...cause i tried Nero Vision Express and it won't happen with that dues to the fact of using 2 or more VCDs.

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      • setarip
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        • Dec 2001
        • 24955

        #4
        I don't personally use the NERO Vision Express software, but simple logic would indicate that if you use TMPGEnc to split the video into TWO MPEG-1 VideoCD files BEFORE burning, you'll be able to create menus for each CD that you burn...

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        • I26
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          • Jun 2002
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          #5
          Originally posted by setarip
          I don't personally use the NERO Vision Express software, but simple logic would indicate that if you use TMPGEnc to split the video into TWO MPEG-1 VideoCD files BEFORE burning, you'll be able to create menus for each CD that you burn...
          Well I personally didn't use it before but been playing with it recently. Once you start getting into adding menus after splitting your talking like 30 hours of conversion if not more to make one VCD. I usually make a DivX then convert to VCD and then if i wanted menus I would have to use Nero which in turn re-encodes the whole movie yet again. Thats along time if you know what I am saying. I only have a p3 500MHZ, p2 450MHz, and a 400MHz Celeron. Is there a tool I can use to make menus other than Nero Vision Express...I am not asking how to use this but where to find it. I am more a DivX do'er but have been messing with VCDs alot recently. Thanx for the insight, its appreciated.

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          • setarip
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            • Dec 2001
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            #6
            Based on your relatively low-powered systems, I'd suggest that you can sufficiently enjoy your VCDs without menus...

            (Just use the "Time search" or "Go to" options available from your standalone DVD player)

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            • I26
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              • Jun 2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by setarip
              Based on your relatively low-powered systems, I'd suggest that you can sufficiently enjoy your VCDs without menus...

              (Just use the "Time search" or "Go to" options available from your standalone DVD player)
              Well how long do you think it would take to encode an avi file of like 90min. to a VCD using TMPGenc using a 2.4GHZ Pentium 4 cpu with TMPGenc set to normal quality?

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              • setarip
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                • Dec 2001
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                #8
                A lot less time than it takes you with your present system(s) ;>}

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                • I26
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                  • Jun 2002
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                  #9
                  I been thinking about it. I am just going to split the .avi file in half and do it that way. Then it will not exceed the CD limit and it would be like doing the movie as a whole and splitting it in TMPGenc. I don't know why it tool me this long to think of that. DOH!!!

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                  • setarip
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                    • Dec 2001
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                    #10
                    That's not really very different than what I suggested to you earlier, to wit:

                    "simple logic would indicate that if you use TMPGEnc to split the video into TWO MPEG-1 VideoCD files BEFORE burning..."


                    By the way, my experience has shown that splitting the file in TMPGEnc is LESS likely to cause VCD synch problems for "Part2" than can occur if you split the original .AVI in VirtualDub...

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                    • I26
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                      • Jun 2002
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                      #11
                      Well splitting the files in TMP is not going to work on the logic I have about it. I first encode to an avi using Flask(DivX file). Then I split that into 2 parts using VirtualDub and encode with Nero so I can set up menus. TMP will not split the avi files. So how do you expect your idea to work....its not as simple as you make it perhaps.

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                      • setarip
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                        • Dec 2001
                        • 24955

                        #12
                        This was YOUR statement in your first posting to this thread:

                        "I use TMPGenc to do my VCD convesion"

                        So I guess you've either changed your methodology or misspoke in your first posting. Be that as it may, the only thing that counts is that you've (either by yourself or with some assistance) resolved your dilemma ;>}


                        P.S. As I stated in my last response, my experience has shown that splitting the file in TMPGEnc is LESS likely to cause VCD synch problems for "Part2" than can occur if you split the original .AVI in VirtualDub...

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                        • I26
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                          • Jun 2002
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                          #13
                          Take this however you want but you need to lighten up abit. I am not trying to start a debate about who said what or when or even how...its no big deal. Feel like I'm on that show "Crossfire". Its just a forum...at least thats what I take it as.

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                          • setarip
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                            • Dec 2001
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                            #14
                            The only thing that counts is that you've resolved your dilemma ;>}

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