encoded to a 30GB file!!!

[james222]

deary me. havnt got a clue whats goign on.

having gone thru all the processes explained in the gordian knot tutorial, and then 'encoding with divX 5 and waitign for a good few hours for the process to be completed (to convert a 88min film into avi format, why on earth do i end up with a 30gb avi file!?


what could i be doing wrong?

thanks

[Enchanter]

Could you elaborate further on what exactly has been done using GK? It looks like no compression was done in the file, either in the video or audio or both. You should check that the codec is installed and that the encoding program instructed to use that particular codec.

[james222]

encoding prob divx

elaborate? hmm well, as i said i followe dexaclty all the instruction in the tutorial, so i cant really understand why my file was not compressed. but u could be rigth. the codec might no thave been installed ( i had not downloaded the freeware version - but the pro version without the ads - so i did not have the registration key. - so i have now downloaed and installed Divx5.02 with ads etc). and have started the process again

at present it is encoding - its done 35% in about 50 min.
here is the current log file - is this how it should be?
14.46 started Divx5-first pass -D\w2.avs
14.46 New bitrate for movie=2196k(=1000bit/s
14.46credits size=2522
14.46 Assumed credits part has 1636 frames
14.46 finished Divx5-single quality 12% duration 1min38sec
14.46 startedDivx5 single quality 12%d\w2.credits.avs

and the queue file: -

divx5-first pass d\w2.avs
divx5 second pass d\w2.avs
append credits
delete Intermediate files(disabled)
End of Job1 (w2)


is this how it should be?

thanks

[khp]

Yes that sounds about right.

At least the endcredits encoding completed sucessfully.

[james222]

sorted

yeah thanks.

seem to have got it sorted anywhere thru trial and error.

just got a little confused by the audio extration process - ie one of the guides recommneds Nandub and others recommnend an another (for enhancing soundquality). - or are they supposed to be used in conjunction?(http://www.atlandide.net/~uncasms/en...php?page=sound)


also im a little irritated that the total avi with audio came to a size that i nt really gonna fit on two cds (i.e. 693mb+726mb) after havign followed the set up here http://www.atlandide.net/~uncasms/en...p?page=gordian

after have been thru all those processes im not sure that i can botherede to go back to compress it just a little bit in order to fit 2 cds.

Is there a uqick and simple way to do this?

thanks

[Enchanter]

The guide recommended either directly using GordianKnot for extracting the audio, or going the Vob2audio way, which does give you better flexibility in processing and editing the audio. If you can't be bothered with achieving the highest audio quality possible and you don't want to waste anymore time, the first one would suit you well. If you are fussier than that, the second one will be worth the extra time and effort.

A way to reduce the filesize would be to remove the end credits (if you have also processed it):
1. Open encoded file in Virtualdub
2. Set Video and Audio tabs to Direct Stream Copy
3. Use the Mark In/Out buttons at the bottom of VD to set where to begin and to end the processing respectively
4. Go to File -> Save as AVI and give a name to the new file

Hope that helps.

[james222]

recompression of avi ?

yeah, cheers that seems quite straightforward, but the problem is, that ive already done that and its still too big, by about 25mb.(to fit onto one cd).

so what i really need is for the finished avi file to be compressed just a little bit more.(no?)

whats the best/most simple and straightforward way?

or must i go back to the pre-encoding process with Gordianknot (for example) and/or DVD2AVI to load in the entire .dv2v file (which was finally split into 2 to fit on 2 cds - onyl that it didnt) and just make it a little bit smaller (ie changing the resoulution/bits per pixel etc) - and then encode and process etc etc ?


cheers

[Enchanter]

Either you reencode the audio at a lower bitrate, or you re-do the second pass at a slightly lower video bitrate. You still have the processing settings and .log file, don't you?

[james222]

sorry , i must sound like a bit of a muppet.

yes, i assume i have all the settinjgs saved and havnt deleted anything. where should i find the log file?

briefly how do i re-do the video at a slightly lower bitrate without havign to do a 1st pass ( is it a case of simply going to GordianKnots Divx encoding control panel and checking 'checking 'second pass' (as opposed to 'both passes' or 'first pass') ?

i dont think i should re-encode the audio at a lower bitrate as it was already at 128

cheers



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[UncasMS]

since gk/divx5 have never EVER created a file that was too big in all my conversions, i doubt that you have followed my guide to the letter.

i guess you must have used slightly different settings.
therefore, i would NOT just repeat the 2nd pass but going the whole nine yards and repeat the entire process.

can you post the *GKnot.log ?

[james222]

if u are referrimg to the 30 gb fiel made from 5gb, well, i sorted that out by re-installing (and correctly installing)the version of DivX 5.02. the reason GK expanded it up to 30gb im not quite sure, but Divx wasnt working.

in reference to my query earlier as to how i can re compress - re-encode the avi file just a little in order that it fits exactly on 2 cds - well im just encoding via a second pass havign reduced the bitrate to make the total avi file smaller (from the indications in the GK control panel).

I dont really know why after followign the tutoriali ended up with a file size that was too big for 2 cds - well, u might say it is obvious by the fact that the file size indicated in my file folders says 142200kb / 2 = more than 700mb - thus its not gonna fit. i guess i shoudl have been more careful.

(but what i cant understand is that that 1422000 is also indicated as being 1.35 gb - therefore under this value it woudl fit. so maybe i took my readings from somewhere that indicated this value and therefore no corrections were needed.

so , it doesnt seem so logical. 1.35 gb for me is 1350000kb. but obviously its not.
nobody has told me about this anomaly

by followign the GK tutorial (DVD back Up Guide)and lookign at the total file size box number 3 (step 3.5) - ( i basically just copied - as much as possible all the settigns here) - u have a value of 1423360kb and underneath 1390 mb ( this is set for 2 cds) so obviously the top value does not fit onto 2 cds, whereas the bottom figure, would seem to me, to be just within the 700mb per cd size


yeah well, its a bit confusing for me

anyway, so i decided to re-encode the whoel thign again, only with a second pass and lower bitrate - ill split it , discard the 1st part (as i already have it and have burnt it - it works perfectly), and this time the second part shoudl be at least 20mb smaller., no?


log file - hmm. not sure i woudl still have that now as im overwriting the first avi i did (with onyl a second pass), so i assuem its overwriting the first log file . and where woudl it be kept - in the same folder as where the dv2 files and avi files are kept or is it in a separate virtual dub folder?

what dyu recken?

[UncasMS]

concerning size: are you absolutely sure, that the first file WAS definitely toooooo big??

did you try to burn it or did you discard it since you THOUGHT it wont fit???


the logfile will be in the same folder where you save the avi to and of course will be overwritten, in case you used the same name as you did before.

[benderman]

I've no experience with GKnot, but wasn't there a similar problem with nandub if the right codec was not installed? As nandub is still a part of GKnot it might be the same problem. In my version of nandub the first pass is always done with DivX3.11a even if I select M$MPEG4V2 for the 2nd pass. Maybe you need to install the DivX3.11a-Codec, else GKnot/nandub will save the video as uncompressed avi. But I'm only guessing. Maybe some encoding-pros with GKnot-experince could uninstall DivX3.11a and test it.

[james222]

concerning size: are you absolutely sure, that the first file WAS definitely toooooo big??

did you try to burn it or did you discard it since you THOUGHT it wont fit???


the logfile will be in the same folder where you save the avi to and of course will be overwritten, in case you used the same name as you did before.

well, the total file avi file size is/was 1420040 (or 677+ 709mb - after splitting) (so i assume too large to fit on 2 cds going by the value given in kb as opposed to the value given in mb - which i obviously didnt go by.

so at this point i already knew that i might have problems fittlign it all on to 2 cds but i hoped that if i split the first part into a value as close to 700mb as possible i might just be able to squeeze the remainder 720040 onto a 700mb cd ( liek they are never exactly 700mb are they?).

so i end up with a value of 693 950kb for the 1st part of the avi. and i dont change this as another 6000kb isnt gonna really make the 2nd part fit onto the 2nd cd. (however unbeknown to me this 1st part is infact only 677mb - in which case i could have fitted at least another 20mb onto it

so.... i try...hopefulyl to burn the second avi which is 726 090kb - which of course i cant. - the second avi is in fact only 709mb(not 726mb! - as i had assumed.) in which case i could have easily taken the 9mb from this and attached to the fisrt part of the avi split. - and woudl have had a perfect fitting 2 cd avi

u following?

so thats where ive gone wrong isnt it. ive got confused by the 2 values, kbs as opposed to mbs.

yeah , i can see it now. all very simple

ok, somebody has just explaiend to em the 2 values - required space and actual space (?) yeah?

even so the required space (or is it recommended space) comes to over 1400000

do u get my drift and sligth confusion?

[UncasMS]

i do follow, but even 1466mb will fit on two cds on my machines!

what gk states as 1440 or 1466 mb will be ~1400mb when looking up filesize with win explorer.

thus those files should in almost any case fit on two cd assuming you split the files precisely!