tiny tiny files

[rorypyro]

Hey, I'm a (relative)newbie, and like all newbies, I have a problem!

I've just started encoding, using gordian Knot with Divx5. It took me a good while to get working, but I managed that much, And happily encoded A beautiful mind and jaws to 1.2 gb files I could split over two CDs. Had a small audio sync problem but I fixed it in Nandub.

I tried to encode Brotherhood of the wolf, using the same method exactly (or so I thought) - I go throught all the parameters, everything seems fine, hit encode, and it starts up virtual dub just like normal, only the status window tells me my projected file size is 4 mb! It encodes them at a worthless 2k/s bitrate.

What Am I Doing Wrong?

I'm using two different machines and they both started doing this the other day. the other one first limited everything to a 600mb file, and now its down to about 6 megs. Theres plenty of space on the drives of both machines....

[Enchanter]

Sounds like you are performing the first pass, which always results in small and unplayable AVI files. The second pass, performed after the first pass, will result in the true, fully-sized (if I can call it that way) video file.

[rorypyro]

thats definitely not the case for one of the machines. It might be for the other one though. One of them I can leave for 24 hours, come back and the file is about 400mb, when I asked it to be 1280 mb

[Enchanter]

One of them I can leave for 24 hours, come back and the file is about 400mb

In this case, it is possible that the given movie has reached maximum quality, where all frames in the video stream have already had all the bits they require and need no more. Does this movie happen to have a lot of dark scenes in it (which would contribute greatly to the compressibility of the movie)?

[rorypyro]

No they're terrible quality! They look like a real media file by the time they're finished.

BTW that tiny avi file size for the first one is sorted, thanks for the help! I guess I should have read Doom9s Gordian-Knot FAQ BEFORE I posted threads.

Still getting bad quality low file size avis for the second one though.

I've tried Tigerland, When Brendan Met Trudy, and the Professional - Special Edition

[The Edge]

Howya,
Can you post the GordianKnot log-file.?
Could be so many reasons.

Edge

[rorypyro]

well I don't have it with me at the mo, I'm in work.

could you give me a few of those possible reasons?

[The Edge]

Could be so many things....
Are you keeping the AC3 sound or just mp3?
Codec issues......
I have done A Beautiful Mind and Brotherhood of the Wolf on 1 cd fine in the past and they turned out fine.
If you get a chance to post your logfile, that usually shows any issues there might be

Edge

[rorypyro]

I'll post the logfile tonight if I get a chance.

I'm ripping the AC3 sound from DVD, then converting it to MP3 with BeSweet.

But even if I was using a huge AC3 file (say 300mb), the end file which incorporates video and audio should still be the size I specified, right?

[The Edge]

Yeap, spot on.
It would seem the bitrate being specified by GKnot is not being used. What codec are using?
If you are applying any special treatment to the credits, this could be f*cking things up.??

Post the log file and we will have a gander at it later tonite.

Edge

[rorypyro]

will do.

But If I don't get around to it tonight I'll post it tomorrow.

cheers

[rorypyro]

didn't get a chance to grab that .log file last night, I'll see if I can get it this evening.

[rorypyro]

Ok for some reason the log file is 12mb!

Surely thats a bad sign... I won't be posting it but I'm about to have a good root through it and see what I can find....

if I can open a text file that size...

[rorypyro]

Right - Heres the Smaller one, tiger_1_GKnot_1.log (lots of ones there, I've made a few attempts!)

06/02/03 19:44:23: Job "Movie 1" started.

o DivX5-First Pass: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger.avs
End of Job 3 (Movie 1).
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________

Gordian Knot 0.26.1.8
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncD5_First
Number: 3
Name: Movie 1
Platform: Win98SE (4.10.67766446).1

Files:
VirtualDubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\Virtualdub.exe
NandubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\Nandub.exe
AviFinal: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger_1.avi
AviMovie: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger_1_Movie.avi
AviCredits: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger_1_Credits.avi
MovieFS: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger.avs
CreditsFS:
Log : D:\films\Tigerland\tiger_1_1.log
Stats: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger_1.stats
Ecf : D:\films\Tigerland\tiger_1.ecf

Options:
Quality/DRF: 0
CreditsStart: 0
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 0
CreditsAppend: 1
DeleteInterm.: 0
EnforceBitrate:0
Anti****: 0

Calculator:
VideoSize: 871770 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 86480 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 9154 kbyte.
AviSize: 967405 kbyte (944 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 967405 kbyte (944 mbyte).
Interleaving: vbrmp3
Bitrate: 1229 k(=1000)Bits/s
Frames: 145295
FPS: 25.000
Duration: 1:36:52
Quality: 0.218 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck5: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
DivX5BiDirect: 0
DivX5GMC: 0
DivX5QuartPel: 0
DivX5PsyVis: 0
Resolution: 640 x 352

Audio 1:
mode: Just Mux Source File.
sourceFile: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger AC3 T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY -111ms.mp3
wavFile: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger AC3 T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY -111ms.wav
mp3File: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger AC3 T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY -111ms_1.mp3
azid: ""
lame: ""
delay: -111
interval: 2
preload: 500
mux: 1
recalc: 1
deleteWav: 1

Audio 2:
none.

19:44:23: Audio 1, determined: 86480 kb
19:44:23: Audio 1, calc: 86480 kb
19:44:23: New Bitrate for Movie = 1229 k(=1000)Bits/s

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\VirtualDub.jobs:

// $job "DivX4 First Pass"
// $input "D:\films\Tigerland\tiger.avs"
// $output "D:\films\Tigerland\tiger_1.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("D:\\films\\Tigerland\\tiger.avs", 0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000 ,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(358,"GAEAAMjAEgDQBwAA CgAAABQAAAAsAQAADAAAAAIAAAAFAAAAAgAAAJABAAAAAAAAAA AAAB4AAABkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAgAAAyAAAAAAAAAAAQAACamZmZmZnJP5qZmZmZmck/QAAAAAAAAACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIACAADgAQAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOA/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAQ AAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAA AAEAAAD/////BAAAAEQ6XGZpbG1zXFRpZ2VybGFuZFx0aWdlcl8xXzEubG9nAG M6XHRlc3QuZGl2eABEOlxmaWxtc1xUaWdlcmxhbmRcdGlnZXJf MV8xLm12AG0=");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\films\\Tigerland\\tiger_1. avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

19:44:23: Started DivX5-First Pass: D:\films\Tigerland\tiger.avs
23:44:13: Finished DivX5-First Pass. Duration: 3 hours, 59 minutes, 49 seconds.
23:44:13: Trying to open Log-file.
23:44:17: Success: Log-file open.
23:44:17: Encoded: 145294 Frames.
23:44:17: Speed: 10.097 Frames per Second.

23:44:17: Done.
23:44:17: Log File = D:\films\Tigerland\tiger_1_1.log
Total Encoding Time: 3 hours, 59 minutes, 54 seconds.
06/02/03 23:44:17: Job "Movie 1" finished.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________

[UncasMS]

only pass 1 was done

you must have misconfigured gk

click my upper anigif and compare the gk routine with what you did