The best Divx Quallity

[Enchanter]

'Have you ever seen this rip of Shreck that goes arownd on many pear to pear programs or the Planet of the Apes'68. Its only 1 CD and It looks wonderfull, almost like the DVD. I mean no macroblocks at all.... no litle warm artifacts wiggling arround the shoulders or hair of the people... nothing wrong, SUPERB!!!! And only !CD. '


Can you post the filesize, resolution and length of the movie? Quite interested to know.

[Hoschi]

Hi!

I know why shrek has such a good quality with only 1 CD: It is no real movie! You will see on all movies like shrek, toystory, southpark... that you can put a good quality on low space. such movies don't need such a high datarate. Thats it

kind regards

[Enchanter]

Not necessarily...

It's more probably because most animation movies have short presentation time and hence encoders are able to assign higher overall bitrate for the movie.

[Erci]

As in any other post that have probs with the quality and other probs to I sugest GordianKnot. With this program you can use divx divx 4xx and divx 5. I tried it out with divx and divx5. I havent tried 4 beacuse of it's small calculating probs. I haven't had any probs at all with this program. If you use it with divx then you can use nadubs sbc encoding. This let you get a superb quality. Or if you choose 4 or 5 you can use virtualdub.
The official guide of GKnot is www.doom9.org/gknot-main.htm
And if you would like a good divx5 guide (I don't know if you can find any here at digital-digest) you can find that to at doom9.org.

I love this program=)

//Erci

[Erci]

forgat the smilies=) it should be divx 3.11.

//Erci

[techno]

That's right, it SHOULD be DIVX 3.11alpha!



Techno

[Hoschi]

I don't think that the better quality is a result of shorter playing times... Shrek for example is about 90 minutes long, many 'normal' movies have the same length, but you won't get the same quality on the same size...

I prefer my opinion: not so much different colors, not so much space... (mmmhhh, I'm not sure if there are less colors, but it has something to do with colors, I think)

kind regards

[benderman]

Normaly computergenerated pictures/videos are less compressible than reallife material. That's because computergenerated images have harder edges and sharper backgrounds. The only problem with filmed videos could be the picturenoise that makes it less compressible. The same problem happens with cartoons. There are not many details, but the hard edges (black lines around every object) need a very high bitrate for dvd-quality.

[TheShadow091]

Many of the 'group-ripped' movies that arent cartoon/computer animated films still come out near perfect. All of the DOMiNiON flicks i've download are great and near perfect quality. If only they'd release a guide!

[Enchanter]

If only they'd release a guide!

If they did, they wouldn't be known as the group releasing HQ movie rips anymore, would they?
But then again, there is more to it than just a simple guide reading.

As for the Shrek rip running at 90 minutes, it's still short enough. I have done one rip running at around this time length and I was able to assign 875-925kbit for the bitrate. That's high enough for a DVD quality. I did Anna & The King once for a 1CD rip. I had to use a resolution of 512x224 and a bitrate of 500 or lower. The end result still looks good with no obvious 'blurredness' and no macroblocks anywhere in sight.

As for my question earlier, anyone can post to me the filesize, resolution and length of the movie? I want to see what I can derive from these values.

[IztokT]

To Enchanter

I did Anna & The King once for a 1CD rip. I had to use a resolution of 512x224 and a bitrate of 500 or lower. The end result still looks good with no obvious 'blurredness' and no macroblocks anywhere in sight.

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Why don't you share the setting you used to do this.

[TheShadow091]

Pleeeeeaaaassssee

[Enchanter]

Here's what I did (And I think it fitting that you should do likewise). I kept changing the settings and reencoding the movie over and over until I have FINALLY got the quality I wanted.

A few rule of thumbs: If your movie is mostly slow-action type (Anna & The King is pretty 'slow'), you can comfortably use a high curve compression rate (25%?). If it is high-action type, you should probably use a lower curve compression rate so that your actions look good (while sacrificing the quality of the slow-motion scenes). The asymmetrical curve compression settings will give you a more definite control over this. Increasing the Payback Delay shouldn't hurt too.

If you have a two-hour or longer movie, using a smaller resolution is a must. Bilinear resizing will be recommended too as this will make the movie more blurred, but easier to compress with DivX (Courtesy of Benderman for pointing this out to me).

The guides also mention that Proportional is the way to go, but my results have always been better with Bias. Also, I use the gauge a lot of time to influence the size of the output. That's probably why I seldom find calculators of much use...

I will welcome any comments or correction as I admittedly think that my settings are never optimal (As we greedy humans always do).

p.s. Any DivX4/5 enthusiast here who can finally see what I meant by 'Quality Control'?