Convert Sequence of Images directly into WMV?

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  • uli
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2003
    • 13

    Convert Sequence of Images directly into WMV?

    Hi folks,

    I got to do the following completely automated:
    Convert a number of given Images (doesn't matter which format) directly into the wmv-codec combining them with a WAV File.

    What I'm able to do now is to convert my Pic-Sequence in an AVI (lets say Indeo-Codec) combining it with a WAV-File and afterwards start the WME8 (commandline) to encode a WMV from that Indeo-AVI.
    The result is the desired one, but it takes too long.
    This is the production-flow:
    render image-sequence: 10 secs (~600 frames)
    convert to AVI: 10 secs
    convert to wmv: 10 secs

    I use network-rendering. So even if it would be possible to write a wmv-stream directly out of my editing-program (DigitalFusion from eyeon) I couldn't use it.

    I would like to get rid of that 'Indeo-AVI-Step', because it would save 1/3 of time amount.

    Are there other progs which are able to encode wmv-streams with a comparable encoding-speed? (By the way: why couldn't the wmv-codec be accessed like other codecs? because it got nothing to do with AVI?).
    The problem is, that WME8 doesn't deal with image-sequences.
    Don't now, whether 'Media Cleaner' could... I will test it, but Cleaner naturally is very slow...

    You guys got any ideas about that?

    thanks!
    uli
  • SKD_Tech
    Lord of Digital Video
    Lord of Digital Video
    • Jan 2003
    • 1512

    #2
    See if THIS helps you at all

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    • uli
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2003
      • 13

      #3
      thanks for the link, SDK.
      It helps me so far, that I know now that even WME9 isn't able to handle image-sequences as a source

      Someone knows about 'frameserving'?
      I tried that with VirtualDub and AVISynth - but didn't work.
      Besides, I dont think this could be easily automated by commandline...

      any other suggestions?

      thanks
      uli

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      • SKD_Tech
        Lord of Digital Video
        Lord of Digital Video
        • Jan 2003
        • 1512

        #4
        i don't know but it goes like this

        Image Seq. > AVI > WMV so that shouldn't be a factor

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        • uli
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2003
          • 13

          #5
          "Image Seq. > AVI > WMV so that shouldn't be a factor"

          what do you mean?
          talking about frameserving?
          Doesn't make sense to do it this way?
          sorry - I dont get it....

          uli

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          • The Edge
            Digital Video Expert
            Digital Video Expert
            • Jan 2003
            • 610

            #6
            What wrong with VDub?
            Report it's error message.

            If your using AVISynth, get the ImageSequence.dll and place in in your plugin directory.

            Use the following script.

            loadplugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth2\plugins\ImageSequence.dll")
            ImageSequence("C:\temp\my_pic.bmp",0,1,25)


            The 0,1 is the start,end frame and the 25 is the fps
            25=PAL
            29.97=NTSC
            Germany use PAL???

            Anyway, make sure your images are the same dimensions and the file name is 0.bmp, 1.bmp, 2.bmp, etc.......




            TMPGEnc will also open Image sequences (but so should VirtualDub, so post the error

            Edge
            "…I know the industry is formally opposed to that kind of thing [bootlegging] but I'm not. I don't have a problem with it at all." -- Paul McGuiness"

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            • uli
              Junior Member
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2003
              • 13

              #7
              Thanks Edge,

              i tried it again.
              Other Video-Applications are able to load the *.avs file, or at least the *.avi provided by VD.
              But WME8 tells me every time:
              "ERROR: Unsupported source file format."

              So this won't serve my purpose

              I got to find another way.
              Either I find a way to make WME8 accept the image-sequence (as we tried before) or I find another tool, which is able to encode WMV-Streams.
              Are there tools which are capable of that?

              please please keep thinking - i do really need it...
              Can you make it approximatley between yesterday and the day before

              thanks for your support til now, guys!
              uli

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              • The Edge
                Digital Video Expert
                Digital Video Expert
                • Jan 2003
                • 610

                #8
                What if you just open 1 BMP in VirtualDub?
                Does it still report errors.

                VDub will only open BMP and TGA files.

                Edge
                "…I know the industry is formally opposed to that kind of thing [bootlegging] but I'm not. I don't have a problem with it at all." -- Paul McGuiness"

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                • uli
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 13

                  #9
                  oups....
                  cross-posting

                  have you read my message above?

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                  • The Edge
                    Digital Video Expert
                    Digital Video Expert
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 610

                    #10
                    Download Windows Media V8 encoding utility, a software for encoding into the new Microsoft Windows Media V8 format, which offers true VBR encoding


                    Get the GUI

                    Again, can you open just one BMP in VDub.? (make sure they are not JPG images.)

                    Edge
                    "…I know the industry is formally opposed to that kind of thing [bootlegging] but I'm not. I don't have a problem with it at all." -- Paul McGuiness"

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                    • uli
                      Junior Member
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 13

                      #11
                      what help should the GUI provide?

                      ...I'll have a look at the link

                      I don't have any probs with VD! Everything works fine including frameserving... but WME8 don't accept the given AVS or AVI...
                      as I told earlier.

                      uli

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                      • The Edge
                        Digital Video Expert
                        Digital Video Expert
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 610

                        #12
                        I don't have any probs with VD! Everything works fine including frameserving... but WME8 don't accept the given AVS or AVI...as I told earlier.
                        Ok, my bad.


                        What codec are you choosing in Vdub whan saving the avi?

                        Uncompressed RGB?

                        I know of no WMV encoder that can use images as a source so I think you will have to use AVI at some point.

                        I know of this GUI which supports AVS input.

                        Good luck.

                        Edge
                        "…I know the industry is formally opposed to that kind of thing [bootlegging] but I'm not. I don't have a problem with it at all." -- Paul McGuiness"

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                        • uli
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 13

                          #13
                          Yes, I chose RGB-uncompressed.

                          Unfortunately the link you gave is just for WME9
                          I have to use WME8...

                          But why should the GUI interpret the AVI the right way?
                          I'll try now some of the WME8-GUI's you told me before...
                          thats my last straw to clutch....

                          thanks for your support!
                          Let me know when you got further ideas!

                          I hope the wheather in Ireland is as beautyful as in germany today

                          greets
                          uli

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