which tvtuner for digitalizing?

[y0_janus]

hi!

i would like to buy a tv-tuner card, i could get these two for half price so plz tell me if i can use them to digitalize from vcr over composite or svideo.

http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/products/data_theater.html

- OR -

http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/products/data_401.html

does somebody has experienced one of these products? plz advise me

the descriptions on the pages somehow confuse me

tia