HC16 slower than HC15?

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  • ElBoricua433
    Super Member
    Super Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 248

    #31
    well how does HC Encoder do with long movies like Pearl Harbor, Scarface, Lord Of The Rings, 2 to 3 hours?

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    • UncasMS
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2001
      • 9047

      #32
      i cannot tell because i used different encoders for those titles when i made a backup of them

      i should think hc will do as good a job as cce

      maybe using matrices like *very low bitrate* or *smooth* might be a good idea

      scarface might even benefit from slight filtering with fluxsmooth

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      • UncasMS
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2001
        • 9047

        #33
        having run 4 dvds with 016 test release 2 since yesterday i can only say:




        all 4 went fine, no hanging, no nothing

        seems like this problem is solved!

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        • 2COOL
          Kamen Moderator V3
          • Aug 2003
          • 2059

          #34
          Originally Posted by UncasMS
          concerning speed: 016 IS faster

          having done a full length testrun with hank315's latest 016 test release 2 today
          Where can I find the download link?
          Last edited by 2COOL; 16 Sep 2005, 02:17 AM.
          2CL C Henshin!
          If you got a dollar for everytime someone called you ugly, you'd be a millionaire...an "ugly" millionaire.±

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          • UncasMS
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2001
            • 9047

            #35
            there is no public link for now - hank315 sent me the test release

            i have asked him, if the latest release could be made available for testing purposes here

            we'll see what he thinks - maybe he is even about to make that version publically available himself any time soon

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            • Lownox
              Super Member
              Super Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 201

              #36
              UncasMS, Must you taunt us with all your flashy fancy toys!
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              • 2COOL
                Kamen Moderator V3
                • Aug 2003
                • 2059

                #37
                Okay, I'll wait for it. I assume that the hanging encode window is fixed?
                2CL C Henshin!
                If you got a dollar for everytime someone called you ugly, you'd be a millionaire...an "ugly" millionaire.±

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                • UncasMS
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 9047

                  #38
                  UncasMS, Must you taunt us with all your flashy fancy toys!
                  i didnt mean to

                  wanted to give some feedback after the problems that i had experienced


                  I assume that the hanging encode window is fixed?
                  i guess we could consider it fixed, because with the previous public release the problem occured with every disc i tried (sometimes sooner sometimes later)

                  i got this version yesterday, used 4 different titles so far and they all worked flawlessly

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                  • Lownox
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                    • Jun 2005
                    • 201

                    #39
                    Just pullin' your chain man nothin' serious.
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                    • hank315
                      Junior Member
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 21

                      #40
                      A new test release: http://hank315.dyndns.org/HCbatch_01...16-09-2005.zip

                      Most issues are solved now:
                      - hangs while running minimized
                      - wrong GOP size for some fixed GOPs
                      - artifacts at the right side of some frames

                      The artifacts were caused because motion vectors could point out of the frame by half a pixel, some decoders don't like that...

                      Still one issue left, using Avisynth DirectShowSource with the WMV decoder sometimes won't read the stream correct during the second pass, it can skip frames or even jump back.

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                      • UncasMS
                        Super Moderator
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 9047

                        #41
                        thanx

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                        • cynthia
                          Super Moderatress
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 14278

                          #42
                          Tried it and no problems. Thanks!

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                          • elizerrojas
                            Digital Video Technician
                            Digital Video Technician
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 484

                            #43
                            one question. i'm always afraid to change what is working so well for me(HC15), let's say that 16 has not issues, should i still change and why? i underestant that the speed between the two is not that much different.

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                            • Lownox
                              Super Member
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                              • Jun 2005
                              • 201

                              #44
                              Thanks hank315!
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                              • hank315
                                Junior Member
                                Junior Member
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 21

                                #45
                                one question. i'm always afraid to change what is working so well for me(HC15), let's say that 16 has not issues, should i still change and why? i underestant that the speed between the two is not that much different.
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                                HC016 should be a bit better regarding quality.
                                Also it runs more stable using Avisynth scripts.
                                And AFAIK 016 is now DVD-compliant, some HW-players (Pioneer) don't like the output of HC015.

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