done 1st dvd rip, bad news.....

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  • techno
    Digital Video Master
    Digital Video Master
    • Nov 2001
    • 1309

    done 1st dvd rip, bad news.....

    Hi there. I done my first dvdrip, thanks enchanter and uncasms for all your help, greatly appreciated.

    I did 2pass using nandub.

    618MB final size.

    there is no audio, audio was encoded first using lame (besweet)

    The downside is that it does not use DIVX low motion. I chose MSMPEG4 v2.

    How can I make a touch better quality? and make audio appear? Also, how/what software should I use for making sure that the dvdrip/avi encoding uses DIVX LOW MOTION?????

    Please help.

    Thanks

    Techno
  • Erci
    Digital Video Enthusiast
    Digital Video Enthusiast
    • Nov 2001
    • 333

    #2
    I don't know what you used either then nandub. But I never have had any problems with GordianKnot and nandub so why don't you try it out. GordianKnot usually make sure everything gets correct with nandub.
    You can read my guide if you find it good=)

    //Erci
    DVD Backup Guide

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    • techno
      Digital Video Master
      Digital Video Master
      • Nov 2001
      • 1309

      #3
      I did use gordianknot beleive it or not!

      is there another way of encoding to DIVX low motion? just like u may have seen dvdrips on the web?

      Techno

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      • Head Hunter
        Junior Member
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2002
        • 21

        #4
        Did Gordan Knot actually do the encoding, or did you set that up in Nandub yourself? In Nandub there is an option for DivX 3 or MS-MPEG4 v2, in Gordian Knot DivX 3 and 4. Hope this helps.

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        • UncasMS
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2001
          • 9047

          #5
          if you set it to MS v2, how can you expect it to be DIVX LOW??

          we are talking about two different things here!

          choose divx if you want divx - NOT MS V2!

          and btw choosing divx3 instead of MS v2 wont hardly make a difference in terms of vid-quality!


          next, if your file does NOT contain any audio, why dont you simply mux the mp3 into it?

          you sure, you told nandub to actually use an existing mp3 stream under audio => vbr mp3??
          i shouldnt think so!

          how are we supposed to judge what you consider 'a touch better'
          whats wrong now?
          increasing bitrate would obviously be a good start.

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          • Enchanter
            Old member
            • Feb 2002
            • 5417

            #6
            I'm afraid you may have to lower the video bitrate and reencode the second pass again. The soundless video is already too large and there is a good chance that the combined audio+video file will be higher than 700MB and hence you can't burn it to CD.

            I think you focused too much on the LM and FM parts of the DivX3 codec. The MS v2 codec is a different codec, although it is the origin of DivX3. Lastly, GK does not deal with the sound, nor does DVD2AVI, and hence you will need to process the audio separately and input it into nandub.

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            • Erci
              Digital Video Enthusiast
              Digital Video Enthusiast
              • Nov 2001
              • 333

              #7
              Have you tried to read any of the guides?
              If not try out the official GKnot guide at www.doom9.org/gknot-main.htm
              or try mine at http://hem.fyristorg.com/dvdriping

              //Erci
              DVD Backup Guide

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              • techno
                Digital Video Master
                Digital Video Master
                • Nov 2001
                • 1309

                #8
                WOW!! Thanks for all your help.

                Sorry, I did not know the codecs where 2 different things.

                UncasMS:

                I did choose the audio mp3 vbr after I converted it to MP3 using wavelab.

                I will try the DIVX codec in nandub.

                Thanks guys, it really is nice knowing someone how can help a newbie at DVD ripping.

                Will let u know the outcome.

                Thanks

                Techno

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                • UncasMS
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 9047

                  #9
                  it doesnt really matter much, but:

                  in your initial posting you said the audio was done with besweet/lame, now you said you encoded to mp3 via wavelab!?!?



                  and maybe you didnt get the hints:

                  THERE WONT BE ANY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN YOUR QUALITY if you use divx3 instead of ms v2!

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                  • techno
                    Digital Video Master
                    Digital Video Master
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 1309

                    #10
                    SORRY!!!! I am only beginning.

                    it was actually used using wavlab, forget the lame/besweet.

                    But usually there is a difference in quality, as I have seen on the web dvd rips.

                    What other packages are there which encode in low motion, I just wanna test!

                    no harm in that is there?

                    Techno

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                    • UncasMS
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 9047

                      #11
                      divx low should be avail in almost any other tool i could think of

                      be it flask, xmpeg, dvdx, mpeg2avi, virtualdub, gordianknot or nandub

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                      • techno
                        Digital Video Master
                        Digital Video Master
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 1309

                        #12
                        What do u think about DVDx? is it a good tool for encoding?

                        I had used DVD Decrypter to decrypt the files in to the hdd, and now wondering if dvdx is another, good option/software to use.

                        I am trying various bits of software for testing, then will choose the right one for me, at this rate, I think it has to be nandub!

                        Techno

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                        • UncasMS
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 9047

                          #13
                          keep testing, judge for yourself, dont care for our opinions

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                          • hermanthegerman
                            Gold Member
                            Gold Member
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 123

                            #14
                            DVDx is perfect if you want to create SVCD or VCD. You don't have to care about anything. But I don't recomend it for creating a Divx movie. For this purpose there are much better utilities, just take a look at nickyguides.

                            Regards,
                            hermanthegerman

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                            • techno
                              Digital Video Master
                              Digital Video Master
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 1309

                              #15
                              @ uncasms:

                              I do care for ur opinions!!!! Don't think I don't because I do.



                              Techno

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