Fine lines.

[CybaSmuggla]

Iam getting very fine lines across my video with playback.
Using flask and divx 4.1.
I have had good success before.Iam backing up nemo,and theres over a GIG of audio! so my video size is limited.
Any suggestions? many thx.

[UncasMS]

1.) divx4 is crap imho [go for 5.05/511 or xvid]

2.) do you know what interlacing looks like - could you be dealing with it?

3.) flask is even worse than divx4.x *g*

[Yosho]

Since its already mentioned in here I'll ask here. I'm having an Interlacing problem. On play back, when there is a slightly faster motion in the animation, you see interlacing, not huge, but just enough to get annoying. I've installed the current Tsunami Mini pack on to the computer with antifreeze filter as well.

I havn't tested it on lots of other videos but apparently its the same on wmv and avi at least. I am also running wXP Pro if that's needed, any ideas? Thanks!!

Yosho

[UncasMS]

antifreeze has nothing to do with interlacing
it is meant to make films run despite forzen frames

you could try ffdshow - this playbackfilter does have an internal de-interlacer for playback

maybe your issues might vanish

[hacker_on_fire]

"Iam backing up nemo,and theres over a GIG of audio"

Also i suggest compressing the audio using Ogg (my favourites and imho much better then mp3 and the avi container format) to allow more space for video which i see as more important. In addition the ogm container format is much better then avi esp when searching.

[CybaSmuggla]

OK,thx for the replies.
1st,I have had good success with the highly condemned flask,using
divx 4.1.
I'd be happy to try ogg,but unfortunately the final file size blows out to well over CD size,even at pittifully small bitrates.

I find interlacing is minimised by closing all applications and I mean ALL and using highest priorities in the interface.The video takes around 10 hrs on my crusty ol 500.

[hacker_on_fire]

" find interlacing is minimised by closing all applications and I mean ALL and using highest priorities in the interface"

What exactly do you mean... interlacing is not dependent on cpu speed.

"I'd be happy to try ogg,but unfortunately the final file size blows out to well over CD size,even at pittifully small bitrates."

Use better programs such as Gordian Knot or DVX to achieve your desired file size in ogm format. Also deinterlacing should be easier.

"1st,I have had good success with the highly condemned flask,using
divx 4.1."

Try XviD + Ogg audio + GordianKnot/DVX. You don't know for yourselve that you have reached maximum quality. You might get better quality at a lower file size and see that your results with flask and divx4.1 are much inferior. Don't expect to get perfect results the first time round though.

[CybaSmuggla]

Sorry,I have seen xvid,dont like it.
Closing all apps lessens system resource sapping.If I encode after netting and resources have dropped,the video is choppy and lacey.
If I restart,close everything up and let it run,it comes out very nicely.
I have tried other programs,too much stuffing around.
Each to there own I geuss.

[hacker_on_fire]

"Closing all apps lessens system resource sapping.If I encode after netting and resources have dropped,the video is choppy and lacey."

Quality is NOT dependent on system resources (unless encoding while capturing). It will just encode slower on a slower pc.

"I have tried other programs,too much stuffing around."

If you can't be bothered to put effort in your unlikey to get the best results possible.

[CybaSmuggla]

My point is,
1/regardless of what u say,my system does not lie.

2/I have seen other rips,using the progs u speak of and they dont look as good as mine.(not just my opinion but associates also)The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

3/The time involved devided by the end product often defeats the purpose.

4/The only prob I have had with this particular movie is the fact that fitting it to CD was going to compromise quality,either audio or video,I found it was simply not worth bothering with.

[Enchanter]

DivX 4 is hardly a good codec, much inferior to DivX 5 and even DivX 3.11a codecs. The XviD codec is excellent and IMHO better than DivX 5; thus, it is hard to swallow your claim that DivX 4 betters the XviD codec (unless you are referring to XviD-compressed rips back when XviD was still in early development).

Arguments why DivX 5 is better than the XviD codec and vice versa are plentiful. That is understandable given the relatively close 'performance' of both codecs and the different quality criteria of users. However the same cannot be said with DivX 4. Can you explain how you came to your conclusion (i.e. describe the types of scenes where DivX 4 works well and where the rest stumble, etc.)?

Regards.


p.s. Your original problem strongly looks like a classic interlacing problem, which (as far as I am aware) Flask is only fairly good at removing and GordianKnot never fails to remove.

[hacker_on_fire]

^ thanks you Enchanter for backing me up on this issue.

"1/regardless of what u say,my system does not lie."

Your system may not be lying but you may have made an error in the settings. Trust me, computer performance will not effect quality. Ask people with years on knowledge such as setrip, uncasms, enchanter, khp, techno... and they'll tell you the same thing.

"2/I have seen other rips,using the progs u speak of and they dont look as good as mine.(not just my opinion but associates also)The proof of the pudding is in the eating."

These rips are probably from inexperienced people. If the pudding is in the eating, you first have to rip with XviD/DivX5 yourself a few times.

"3/The time involved devided by the end product often defeats the purpose."

DivX5 is faster then XviD, but both should be able to produce a good quality rip within 3hrs (depending on pc performance). Not too long i think.

"4/The only prob I have had with this particular movie is the fact that fitting it to CD was going to compromise quality,either audio or video,I found it was simply not worth bothering with."

Programs like DVX/Gordian Knot make this so simple. Compression will always compromise quality, thats the principle behind it.