PC Specs

[Chewy]

System BIOS Date 10/29/04
old bios
new core

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103491

nope L2's wrong, sempron(early)?

note: HP also

[Derree]

so what does that mean Anon and Chewy? Is something wrong with my system?

[Chewy]

what's the model number? HP? and has anyone upgraded anything(like more ram)?

[Derree]

its an HP a810n and I am the only person who has had it and I have not put anything into it besides a video card

[anonymez]

L2 seems fine http://www.dealtime.com/xGS-hp_a810n

[Derree]

hmmmm....well ...ummmm......yeah...I am so confused right now

[UncasMS]

its either cool 'n' queit (likely. it'll reduce core to 1000mhz at idle) or somebody's been tampering in things they shouldn't have!

maybe c&q works slightly different on a 754 system but on my current system using c&q leads to a different report in everest:

CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64 3000+
CPU Alias Venice S939
CPU Stepping DH-E3
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
CPUID Revision 00020FF0h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 1005.1 MHz (original: 1800 MHz)
CPU Multiplier 5.0x
CPU FSB 201.0 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
Memory Bus 167.5 MHz
DRAM:FSB Ratio CPU/6

CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 07/26/2005-NF-CK804-A8NSLI-B-00
Motherboard Name Asus A8N-SLI (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN)

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce4 SLI, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 2.5-3-3-6 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 1T

SPD Memory Modules:
DIMM1 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM2 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)

BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 07/26/05
Video BIOS Date 10/28/04
Award BIOS Type Phoenix - Award BIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message ASUS A8N-SLI ACPI BIOS Revision 1011-002
DMI BIOS Version ASUS A8N-SLI ACPI BIOS Revision 1011-002

Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter Gigabyte GeForce 6600 GT PCI-E
GPU Code Name NV43GT (PCI Express x16 10DE / 0140, Rev A2)
GPU Clock 501 MHz
Memory Clock 501 MHz

[anonymez]

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 1005.1 MHz (original: 1800 MHz)
CPU Multiplier 5.0x
CPU FSB 201.0 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
Memory Bus 167.5 MHz
DRAM:FSB Ratio CPU/6

mine doesn't have the 'original value' listed, like deree's. c&q is on

deree, right-click desktop, click properties, 'screensaver', 'power'. is power scheme set to "minimal"? if so, change to 'always on'.

then check everest

[Derree]

Ok I will try that one ...when I get home in about 12 hours or so....so does it look like somthing isn't right with my system? And remember I am a bit of a 'noob'..so plain english is best!

[UncasMS]

a fairly easy way to check & change is this:



AMD POWER MONITOR

more info

[Derree]

but what am I checking and changing...I still don't understand what you guys are saying is wrong..sorry if I am being a pain in your collective butts I gotta add

[UncasMS]

i am not saying anything is wrong because i simply am not sure

what i was wondering about is this:

my socket 754 amd athlon 64 3000+ newcastle had a core frequency of 2000mhz, which is one out two normal models for this cpu (the other 3000+ newcastle had a core freq of 1800 but was socket 939)

your everest details show your core freq is said to be only 1800 but the cpu is said to be an 3300+ which is contradictory as no amd with a core freq of 1800 will be considered a 3300+ processor

the 3300+ should have a core freq of 2400mhz


+++++++++++++++++

this is what makes us think


a possible solution to a difference between core freq and cpu model number can be the usage of amd's feature called cool & quiet

this technology reduces the core freq (when c&q is installed and enabled) in case your cpu is not under full load

in many cases the core will be reduced to almost half its freq - that's why my everest details say: 1000mhz (1800)

the original core is 1800 here but when c&q is working the freq drops down to 1000mhz in order to save power and produce less heat

we therefore thought about the possibility that you might use c&q and to check if that's the case you might either follow the steps which anonymez proposed or if you like download amd's power monitor which will also tell you a little more about the c&q option

[Chewy]

hmmmm....well ...ummmm......yeah...I am so confused right now

that's you're in good company, we are confused too, the spec on your cpu don't match what we normally see, but that could be a glitch in everest and you HP bios.

the L2 reference was to this line,

L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

which I thought would be 512KB
memory in the cpu itself


edit: I skipped the socket 754 and went straight from socket a to 939.

[UncasMS]

which I thought would be 512KB

nope 256 is fine for that very newcastle 754

[Derree]

hmmm I bought it at staples....did not get a system built for me, was a 'system in a box' still in the HP box...so is it possible it's not what it says it is? how much of a differene is there between an 1800mhz and 2400mhz? besides the obviouse answer of 600mhz...Thanks Guys..I love this place!