20 years? For this? Yet O.J. and Robert Blake are free?

[blutach]

Re: To admin

Originally posted by setarip
"I still think a prisoner exchange program could work. Conditions in Australian jails are far nicer, but I suspect many Indonesian prisoners would still prefer to go to an Indonesian jail - at least they would be able to see family once in a while, and not be a minority in a hostile environment."

You appear to be operating strictly on a "nice guy" emotional level. While that's extremely admirable on a human/humane level, the discussion is about people found guilty of commiting felony crimes.

So I would ask you again, what, if any, legal logic would apply to such an idea? Why should one not be imprisoned in the sovereignty where the crime was commited and the sentence imposed? Or is it merely a concern about "Midnight Express"-like conditions being applied to a fellow countryman/woman?

@admin - again I must agree with setarip. Yes, prison is for rehabilitation, but she broke the laws of Indonesia (and, I guess, Australia by exporting the drugs - let us suppose she is, in fact, guilty, OK?), and it stands to reason (at least to me) that it it in Indonesia that she must serve her penalty.

There is also the consideration that the Australian taxpayer is funding her cause, and her appeal, and if transferred back here, her incarceration! Your, mine, Experi-Mentor's and 20 million other people's taxes at work!

And now the Bali 9 want the same help. They are headed for the high jump, but they say, what's good for Schapelle, is good for the nine of us. Where does it end?

I'm sure felons sentenced to death in one State of the US would dearly love to be transferred to their birth State should it have a lesser penalty. Yet the laws broken were those of the sentencing State. I see no reason to have her back here.

However, I reiterate, if she is truly innocent she should be free. I guess that is a truism though.

Regards

[setarip]

To admin

"And just to say that me and blutach are considered minorities probably when it comes to our views on this issue."

What am I misunderstanding here? Are you suggesting you and "blutach" share the same point of view?

You said, "I do agree that Schapelle Corby should serve her sentence here in Australia though, and Indonesian prisoners here in Australia should be given a choice to stay here or go back to an Indonesian jail."

"blutach" said, "I agree 100% with you setarip.
There are extremes, horrible ones, like the DP and in some countries, I believe, maiming thieves still occurs. But those are the laws of those lands, and we visitors to those countries MUST abide by them and suffer their consequences."

[blutach]

I believe admin was saying we share the view that she is guilty. 92.3% of our countrymen and women believe otherwise (without hearing a shred of evidence!)

Regards

[setarip]

"I don't know what you (setarip) are on about blutach, and vice versa, and I am all that interested in finding out to be honest."

That's fine with me ;>}

[admin]

Meant to say "I'm not all that interested".

It is a bit odd that 92% think she is innocent. I think it may be a case of the media trying to influence our opinions, since I've heard from a lot of people that think she may not be that innocent. An innocent woman locked up by a corrupt court in a foreign land plays a lot better than a drug trafficker getting caught. Looking forward to the made for TV movie now...

[setarip]

"Meant to say 'I'm not all that interested'. "

That was clearly understood ;>}

[setarip]

To admin

"It is a bit odd that 92% think she is innocent."

It's remarkable that such a percentage of a fairly sampled populous would share the same opinion - on anything ;>}

Emotions must be skewing responses tremendously or, if your suspicions are correct regarding the media, it could be skewed as a result of the selection of the sample population and/or the wording of questions used in polling...

[setarip]

"I can tell you that my fiancee..."

I stand corrected - It is now clear that Australia is capable of meting out SEVERE PUNISHMENT to women ;>}

[jm1647]

If that was a picture of her "clear bag" with the weed showing....wow.

The weed looks good...all tops

[blutach]

@jm - sounds like you are experienced in these matters.

@admin - yes, the movie, with all profits going to Ron Bakir (aka Schapelle Corby Pty Ltd (makes you sick doesn't it?)) will be a big hit - like the Lindy Chamberlain one - I still don't believe a dingo stole her baby!!! You may also remember the case of Chambers and Barlow, who were hanged in Malaysia some 15 years back for the same crime as Ms Corby was convicted. Sold a lot of papers and a telemovie was made on the back of that.

But what you say - isn't that what so many people believe? That Indonesian courts are corrupt and so now we shouldn't give them aid, and we have already lost 9 soliders' lives helping them with their natural disaster relief efforts, so they should let our pretty convict go? That is extraordinarily sad to see so many people turned against Indonesia in this way - if only their elected and appointed officials.

What is interesting now, is that the prosecution felt she got off lightly. Readers may not be aware that, under the Indonesian system, Ms Corby takes a risk of a longer sentence in appealing the severity of her current one and the prosecution are pushing this hard (perhaps simply as a tactic to justify the sentence as many folks here are already saying).

@setarip - I will not fight with you on line. You may email me with any of your concerns, insults, whatever and I will be glad to respond.

Regards

[setarip]

"I will not fight with you on line"

??????

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?postid=264973#post264973

No, you just try to start one and then run and hide from your own words ;>}

If you won't respond to the civil request that was made of you to be accountable for your own words here, I guess that's life...

Have a nice day ;>}

[jm1647]

Experienced? me? Nah, I just seen a lot of pictures from drug busts on Cops and other TV shows and movies.
The wow was for the clear bag..if she had it in a clear bag (and it looked like one of them bags you hook up to a vacuum cleaner to shrink it down) she deserved to get caught .unless it was an evidence bag that her weed was put into.

[blutach]

@setarip - you have a nice day, too - and I will not bring up your little acronym either. Should you wish to contact me and discuss this further, press the button that says "send an email to blutach" in your control panel. My emails are open for anyone who wishes to send me one.

@jm - no, I believe that was the bag they found. Which perhaps adds further weight to her story. It's a strange case, that's fer sure.

Regards

[setarip]

To jm1647

"Experienced? me? Nah, I just seen a lot of pictures from drug busts on Cops and other TV shows and movies."

Is that the defense that's used in Jersey nowadays?

It used to be, "I'm just holding it for my friend" ;>}

[tigerman8u]

Originally posted by blutach
Not sure what you mean tigerman.

Regards

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